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By Sarah Glassmeyer - Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 10:30pm

Here’s a couple things I believe:

  1. There are several providers of free legal information out there that are reliable enough to recommend to my patrons to use.
  2. Librarians need to collaborate and communicate more with information vendors – all information vendors…Wexis, ILS providers, independents and non-profits.
  3. Most legal research educational materials suck.  They’re dry and the publisher bias contained within some is almost laughable.
  4. Legal information vendors use tactics to get law students hooked on their products that would make a drug dealer blush.

So, when Tom Bruce emailed me a few weeks ago and asked if I’d be interested in creating a Free Law Research Guide aimed at law students, I jumped at the chance.  Without further ado, I present to you The Law Student Guide to Free Legal Research.

Although sponsored by Justia and the LII, I had total editorial control over what resources got selected.  (I also didn’t get paid anything, so I have no real conflicts of interest to declare. Tom has promised to buy me the beverage of my choice upon our next meeting, though.) My only real direction was that I should only recommend sources that I – as a librarian – would use but that I should make it fun and interesting for the average law student.   As for that…well, if you’re reading this, you’re probably a librarian.  I just want to warn you that you may feel the need to do some pearl clutching at what you read in the guide.  I make statements like  “Legal research is boring and  tedious and nothing can change that.”

Listen…legal research is boring and  tedious.

You know, for normal people.

Librarians love it, but that’s why we became librarians.  If it makes me a bad librarian to admit that publicly and I’m gonna go to Librarian Hell for doing so, well….I’ll be sure to pack marshmallows.

ANYWAY, the project evolved over the course of the past few weeks from the initially planned 3 page PDF that they could post on their social media outreach sites to the website linked above.  (A great big thank you to CALI for hosting it on their Classcaster site!)  There is still a PDF available that contains the basics of the site, but there’s much more available.  For instance, there is a blog that will allow us to highlight developments in the #lawgov movement, new resources that are available or just general thoughts on legal research.  I really love Austin Groothuis’ inaugural post.  Guest bloggers are invited and welcome!

Although the site is primarily aimed at law students, there is also a section for law librarians and legal writing instructors. Just as one goal of the site was mirror the student-aimed Wexis offerings, we wanted to offer a similar assortment of teaching aids in the hope that it would encourage the introduction of free legal resources in the classroom.  If you have a handout or powerpoint show that you’d like to share, please contact me and I’ll happily load it and give you full credit. Check back often for more updates.

Speaking of teaching free legal resources, there’s currently a short (~30 seconds) poll on the law librarian resources page.  Aside from my anecdotal evidence, it occurred to all of us during our planning that we had no idea how, when or if free legal resources were being taught in law schools and firms.  We would really appreciate it if you could share your experiences.  Thanks!

One benefit of the website is that I can constantly add or make changes.  The next section that seems obvious to add is a foreign and international law one.  But I’m always open to suggestions.  Similarly, if you find something that you think should be changed, drop me an email or tweet and I’ll look into it.  I’m generally pretty low ego when it comes to things like this and am open to constructive criticism.   So, look around and let me know what you think!

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By Sarah Glassmeyer - Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 9:47pm
Cell Phones Prohibited

A collection of the signs I removed from my library

I  never thought I would care passionately about library signage, let alone write a blog post about them, but here we are.

My job title is “Faculty Services and Outreach Librarian” and I have joked that “Outreach Librarian” is the job duty equivalent of “other duties as assigned.”  For me, anyway,  “outreach” includes making the library a welcoming, friendly place for our patron base.

You know…marketing.

Unlike my academic and public library brethren, when I think about marketing and the library, I don’t really have to worry about getting bodies in the door.  Law students will pretty much always use the library.  Heck, they’d live here if we’d let them.

Why bother trying to make them feel welcome? Marketing goes beyond getting them in the door. Or even checking out books (especially in an academic law library where much of the collection doesn’t circulate.)  I hate to break it to you, Gentle Reader, but students don’t always separate the “library” from “the librarian.”  For all they differentiate, you might as well be physically attached to your reference desk.

If the library doesn’t feel friendly and welcoming, then the librarians don’t seem friendly and welcoming. If the librarians don’t seem friendly and welcoming, then the students are not going to feel comfortable asking us questions when they need to.  (Law students are already having to overcome the perceived sense of weakness by having to ask for help in the first place – let’s not make it harder than we have to, eh?)  So I’m implementing alternative venues for students to ask questions and making the website more user friendly and pondering creating Social Networking profiles and revamping the blog and yes, worrying about the library’s signs.   Any gateway to the library, be it real or virtual, is getting the once over from me.

So, let’s talk about the signs.

The picture above is a collection of the signs I removed last week from my library’s walls.   Every day, in getting from the front door of the library to my office and then to the magic coffee machine in Tech Services, I would pass by six of these.  An outdated picture of a cellphone with a giant international no sign over it and “CELLULAR PHONES PROHIBITED” in capital letters.

Granted, I have a well-documented problem with Authority and The Man, but these signs just seemed unnecessarily harsh.  I’d look at them and think, “Geez, did cell phones make fun of your mom? Did they run over your dog? Did one steal your prom date?  WHY THE HATE FOR CELL PHONES???”   Not only were they harsh, but they were also inaccurate.  We don’t care if people text or play games or surf the web with their phone. (I guess there’s also a chance they might be using them productively.)  All we cared about was that the library stayed quiet so that our patrons could study.

After clearing it with the Powers That Be and consulting with the library communities on FriendFeed, I came up with the following new sign….TA-DA!


New Library Cell Phone Sign

This is for the front doors of the library and there are similar ones for the restrooms, stacks, etc.  Clean, peaceful, friendly and up-to-date.  Instead of telling our patrons what they CAN”T do, we’re telling them what they CAN. Plus, it accurately reflects our cell phone policy.   I am pleased.

Sometimes it’s the little things.

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By Tom Boone - Thursday, August 5, 2010 - 11:03pm

With DrupalCamp L.A. 2010 coming up this weekend, it seemed like as good a time as any to post the video of my presentation from last year. I'm nothing if not timely. My presentation was titled "Social Scheduling and Personalized Event Management" and focused on how I built ScheduAALL. As you may recall, ScheduAALL was a personal conference planner I put together for attendees of the 2009 AALL Annual Meeting.

The video runs 56:45 and is a screencast of my live demo of the site along with the audio from the presentation. I built ScheduAALL with Drupal 6. Over the course of the hour I discuss several modules, including CCK, Date, ViewsContent Profile, Workflow and Flag. Enjoy!

DrupalCamp L.A. 2009: Social Scheduling and Personalized Event Management from Tom Boone on Vimeo.

By Tom Boone - Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 11:38am

With WestlawNext (WLN) finally going live for law school faculty, librarians and staff yesterday afternoon, many law school librarians are finally getting permanent access to the much-hyped interface. This comes only a couple of weeks after Julie Jones's fascinating panel at the AALL Annual Meeting, "The Economics of Interface: Vendors Respond." Following presentation's by Thomson Reuters' Mike Dahn, LexisNexis' Molly Miller and Fastcase's Ed Walters, Larry Abraham of Fordham Law stepped up to the audience microphone and told the vendor representatives that their interfaces discourage users from using secondary sources, instead emphasizing primary law materials. Following Laurence's comments, a few other audience members (myself included) complained to the panel about how vendors treat secondary sources both within their systems and in training provided to subscribers.

With that fresh in mind, I wanted to hit on some specific problems I've encountered while searching secondary sources in WLN. My concerns aren't new. I mentioned them in my initial review of the product back in January. Specifically, when searching state-specific secondary sources, the results are often cluttered with irrelevant materials at the top of the results list. Here's part of what I had to say back in January:

The search algorithms for secondary sources are also problematic. When I select California as my jurisdiction, if there are California-specific resources available on my topic, those need to show up first in my results. Period. When I ran a search for the term "rape," the first 12 results were from "National" sources such as Am.Jur. Trials, Am.Jur. Proof of Facts, and several law reviews. More alarming, none of these were general overviews of rape law, but instead provided information on specific aspects of rape law in various jurisdictions. I discussed this problem with Mike Dahn, vice president of new product development at Thomson Reuters Legal. He assured me that this was not by design and that they were working to make sure jurisdiction-specific resources for a user's selected jurisdiction float to the top of search results, but as of now this isn't working correctly.

The problem I described then still occurs. Here's what the top search results for the Secondary Sources facet look like when I select California as my jurisdiction and search for the word "rape":

The first result from a secondary source covering California law doesn't appear until the 11th result. This means a researcher, despite having already selected a jurisdiction, has to wade through numerous off-topic, out-of-jurisdiction articles to find the ones that are on point for the search.

There is, however, a way around this problem. Having already narrowed the search results to the "Secondary Sources" facet, the left sidebar now displays additional filters. Find the one labeled "Jurisdiction" and select "California":

With this one tweak, the results reflect more of what a researcher expects to see when performing a jurisdiction-specific search:

The jurisdiction sub-facet illustrates part of the problem with the original set of results. Despite a researcher having selected California as the jurisdiction before running the search, WestlawNext still includes "National" sources in the results. In a state with fewer high-quality secondary sources than California — say Nevada — including these national sources is probably a necessary evil (though one would hope these national search results would be more on point). Just realize that if you want only state-specific resources you'll need to do that extra step of filtering.

Oddly, even if you narrow your search target to only "California Secondary Sources" by browsing the WLN sources before running your search, WLN still considers those national sources to be "California Secondary Sources," so you'll again need to apply a post-search jurisdiction filter to get true state-specific results.

But the problem with secondary sources in WLN doesn't go away by selecting a sub-facet. This refers back to another problem I discussed in January:

In these results, very little specific information about each source displays. Most of the time what a researcher sees is the title of the specific section, the title of the source, and a couple of text snippets in which the search terms are highlighted. Little to no information about where within that source the section appears shows in these results. For example, when a section of "Witkin and Epstein's California Criminal Law" title simply "Generally" appears, that's the extent of the citation information displayed. The precise article within "Witkin & Epstein" in which this section appears is nowhere to be found, so researchers won't know until viewing the document itself whether it's from an article about sex crimes, robbery or murder. The threaded information available in search results for statutory sections (Title, Chapter, Subpart, etc.) needs to be included in secondary sources as well, or else the results are confusing at best and unusable at worst.

Take another look at that last screenshot showing results from California-only secondary sources. This uses WLN's default "More Detail" display type. In these results, the first result looks to be the most relevant. After all, it is titled "Rape" in big bold print. The second and third results also look to be on point, but the information provided is rather cryptic about what specific crime they refer to. If the source in question isn't part of your subscription plan, the only way to find out if they're relevant is to click on each and incur an out-of-plan charge. Not exactly the best way to go about cost-effective research. Worse still, that first result — the one titled "Rape" — that looks so relevant? It turns out this is a section from an article about First Degree Murder that only discusses rape insofar as it pertains to the commission of a homicide. The second result ("Nature of Crime") is the only one in the top three actually from Witkin & Epstein's article about the crime of rape. The third document in the results ("In General") is, like the first, about homicide.

There is a more detailed view available than this one, but it doesn't solve the problem. To change the display type, go to the display options at the top of the search results (the icon showing one to three horizontal lines) and select "Most Detail":

Even with the most detail display available for search results, however, the full threaded information isn't included and it's still impossible to tell whether each result concerns the specific crime of rape without retrieving the document itself:

This isn't a problem so long as the source is part of your subscription plan and you can pull up as many documents as you want. But if "Witkin & Epstein's California Criminal Law" isn't in your plan, you might be faced with quite the dilemma when deciding how important it is to find the right document. Or perhaps you'll skip secondary sources altogether, jumping instead into the primary law results directly.

Truth be told, the more specific your search terms ("unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor" vs. "rape"), the stronger likelihood of having relevant search results float to the top. This is true of any search engine, and I'm not suggesting the search algorithm is the problem. It's the display. Given that general searches like "rape" are common in legal research, particularly when searching secondary sources, the lack of useful identifying information about a document is a problem that needs to be addressed by Thomson Reuters Legal.

I don't want this post to be interpreted as a negative review of WLN. Most of my review in January was positive and I stand by that overall opinion. WestlawNext is a vast improvement across the board over Classic Westlaw, and I don't share the opinion of many that it "dumbs down" legal research. To the contrary, I've found that it adds considerable power to most of the research I've done using the new system. Figuring out what database I need to search in Classic Westlaw doesn't mean I understand the sources of law any better. It just means I know what database I need to search in Westlaw.

But as superior as it is to its predecessor, it still has legitimate problems. The issues associated with secondary sources in WLN need to be highlighted. Even if Thomson Reuters opts to not fix these problems, we as researchers need to be aware of them. And as instructors — both in the classroom and at the reference desk — we need to be prepared to educate others about them, too.

By Sarah Glassmeyer - Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 1:21pm

Over the past day, I’ve probably seen at least a dozen links via Twitter, Facebook and Friendfeed to NPR blogger Linda Holmes’ recent assertion that Libraries may be the next big pop-culture wave. And just last week, spurred by Andy Woodworth, the “Old Spice Guy” made a short video promoting libraries. It even got picked up by the Huffington Post! Yes, libraries may just be having their moment as a pop-culture phenomenon. Everyone’s thrilled.

Except me.

Listen, I’m really not trying to be a Buzz Killington here. I don’t think there was anything wrong with the Old Spice Guy’s video. Nor is there anything bad about creating and encouraging other pro-library “fluff” like a library themed Ben and Jerry ice cream (a movement also spear-headed by Mr. Woodworth, who I swear I am not trying to pick on and actually respect quite a lot), the Librarians Go Gaga video or book truck drill teams. I can appreciate and enjoy those types of things. Not everything that publicizes libraries or gets librarians excited and active has to be serious or weighty. Hell, I even participated in and liked the Library 101 video.

My fear is that by becoming just another pop-culture icon, libraries and their advocates will, in the long run, lose out on assistance and support they could be getting from people. I guess I just don’t want “Save the Libraries” to become another “Save the Whales” type cultural event where everyone gets really excited for a hot second and then they move on the next thing.   Fortunately for libraries, we’re sort of used to being uncool, so the shock won’t be too great.

I also fear that this sort of popularity makes possible advocates lazy. For example, there are few things that annoy me more than ribbons that people wear on their lapels, cars, etc. Wearing a colored ribbon doesn’t mean that you are helping to fight the battle against anything. It means that you pinned a ribbon to yourself and are letting people know what cause you support. This has its uses, but it’s nowhere equal to writing legislators, donating money or volunteering time. Likewise, watching the Old Spice video and getting its YouTube hit numbers up doesn’t do anything to support libraries. These are good steps to introduce people to the issues, but we need to make sure we don’t leave people out on the stoop once we open the door.

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By Meg Kribble - Monday, July 19, 2010 - 9:45am

Imagine you're at the AALL 2050 Business Meeting in San Francisco, CA:

A librarian no one in 2010 has met, because he hasn't started his career yet, presides as president. After the treasurer's report, it's time to award the president's certificates of recognition. Among those called to the stage: a wizened Jenny Westlaw, honored for 40 years of service to the law library community. As Jenny makes her way to the stage, the librarians spontaneously rise to their feet and give her a standing ovation.

Yeah, right.

I've been trying to figure out something (polite) to say about Ms. Westlaw and her counterpart Johnny since I discovered their existence a couple months ago. (Incidentally, via a site with a url that revealed Thomson Reuters is outsourcing some of their marketing--sloppy, but not a huge surprise.) Since that discovery, the Westlaws have been easy targets for private jokes and mockery.

So here's the thing: the scene described above happened just as I described it this year, except with Cathy Lemann presiding instead of some unknown whipper snapper. And in place of Jenny Westlaw, it was HeinOnline's Dick Spinelli being honored for his 40 years of good work.

And I'm not sure why it took me so long to figure out, but that's when it really struck me: the reason some of us have such a strong negative reaction to Johnny and Jenny is that they are fake people. Characters. Dick is real. And he's got his own, non-scripted personality and has taken time to get to know us over the years, and isn't going to disappear when corporate HQ decides on a different marketing direction.

I like Dick Spinelli. When I visited the Hein booth at SEAALL as a baby librarian, he made me feel welcome and also made it clear that he had a working relationship with my director, mentioning her name without any prompting or guessing. And it's not a problem of old vs. new ways of doing business, because I also like Fastcase's Ed Walters, who let his personal passion for design shine through in the session he spoke at, especially as compared to the more corporate Lexis and Westlaw speakers. I even like my local Lexis and Westlaw reps.

Beyond being merely fake, there's also something a little creepy treehouse about Johnny and Jenny--like we're supposed to pretend it's normal for a legal information vendor to hire actors for us to interact with. (I think I heard that J&J were already Thomson Reuters employees, but the point remains since they're not playing themselves.) I don't know about anyone else, but if that's something I want to do, I'll go to a dinner theater show or visit the Plymouth Colony reenactment, thanks very much. I'm at a loss as to whom they are supposed to appeal to. Maybe students, but definitely not librarians young or old. And I doubt students love them either--they're usually even better than us at detecting fakes.

Sure, it's harder for Westlaw as an entity to connect with us because it's part of a giant corporation. Giant corporations like to be uniform and careful about their public presences, which often results in bland, personality-free communications. No surprise, but I'd rather have bland than fake.

I had a boss in my pre-library life who used to stress to the account reps that ours was a relationship business, not a transaction business. I've come to believe that outlook is valuable across many fields, including our own. I'd bet Spinelli and Walters might even agree with it. Unfortunately for Westlaw, it's pretty hard to have a relationship with a fake person.

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By Sarah Glassmeyer - Saturday, July 17, 2010 - 1:46pm

I am recently returned from my 5th AALL annual meeting.

There are many things I could write about with regards to this meeting…the fun of hanging out with Internet friends in meatspace, my nervousness at having my sister be a presenter, the excitement of finally getting to “meat” people that I’ve only known online, reuniting with former co-workers and old friends, the great programs I saw, my annual fear that my near pathological shyness would be interpreted as snobbery by those that don’t know me well, the exhibit hall madness, the rush-rush nature of AALL…but I’m not.

Do you know why?

Because I’m exhausted, y’all.

Which brings me to the thing that I do want to talk about.

I am on the AALL Annual Meeting Program Committee for the AALL 2011 in Philadelphia, so I tried to pay particular attention to the programming this year, seeing what I liked and soliciting advice from the librarians I met while at the conference.  If you’re reading this, that means you likely read other law librarian blogs, which means you are aware of the controversy about AALL program planning that sprang up in the days preceding this year’s annual meeting.  Given my membership on the AMPC, I didn’t want to get involved in that online discussion prior to meeting with the committee at AALL in Denver, but now I feel a little more free to shoot my mouth off.

CAVEAT LECTOR: I am not speaking for the AMPC in the following.

First of all, I was really excited to see that the law library blogosphere get whipped up on AALL program planning.  If I thought the process was perfect or that everything with program planning was hunky-dory, I never would have applied to be on the committee.  I hope now that the meeting is over and the annual meeting is fresh in everyone’s mind, more suggestions are offered as to how the meeting should be programmed.  Even if you’re not a blogger, the AMPC contact information is available on the above linked site and I really hope you suggest changes if you have an opinion.  There was an open committee meeting and Open Forum at AALL.  No one besides committee members showed up to the committee meeting, so no outside suggestions were offered there.   I wasn’t able to attend the Open Forum as I had another meeting to go to, but from what I understand  a discussion of changes to the Annual Meeting programming did not happen, even though some of the bloggers were in attendance.  I’m disappointed by this, but, again, there’s still time to offer an opinion!  I really do want to hear it!

That being said, I must admit that I had to work to  not take some of the criticisms of the AMPC personally.  Especially the “advance criticism” that we were getting. By this I mean, broad statements of “what AMPC is looking for.” Or, more maddening,  people saying that they would submit a certain program, but the AMPC probably wouldn’t accept it because they didn’t accept something similar a few years ago, so they’re not going to bother.

The AMPC changes every year. It’s not a faceless, secret organization determined to make AALL annual as awful as possible.   It’s me. And Anne Myers. And James Senter and Ruth Bridges and Ann Matthewmen and and April Schwartz and Linda Tesar.  We’re just a bunch of AALL members and, unless they’re having secret meetings without me, not once have I heard any secret agenda or list of people who automatically get programs accepted.  It’s sort of stunning how little of an agenda we have besides wanting the best program that provides the most educational value for as many members as possible.

But here’s the thing: AMPC’s hands are really tied. We can’t create an awesome slate of programming unless members propose and create the sessions.   This brings me to why I’m exhausted.  Even though the organization is “The American Association of Law Libraries”, it’s run by and for law librarians.  As I said, I wasn’t happy with programming in the past, so last year I submitted 7 program ideas and agreed to speak on 2 others.  Of that, one of each got accepted.  Additionally,  I co-ran an unconference, attended several committee meetings, dragged myself to the AALL business meeting even though I was experiencing an ocular migraine at the time (fortunately I left before the sing-a-long), and made it to a couple of networking events where I actually forced myself to talk to new people.

I really believe that if you want AALL (either the meeting or the organization or both) to change, you have to be the one to do it.   I also have a new personal rule that the statute of limitations for complaining about AALL is 5 years.  That is to say, if something happened more than 5 years ago, you need to buy a ladder and get over it because I certainly don’t want to hear about it.  The nature of AALL leadership is fluid enough that whoever made the decision that wrecked your plans is long gone and you need to try again.  Otherwise, you are just a whiner, and there are few things more annoying than people who complain without trying to do anything to change the situation.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to take a nap.  I’m exhausted.

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By Meg Kribble - Tuesday, July 6, 2010 - 5:08pm

So, how about that annual meeting? Law librarians have been talking, just a little. Here's the recap, followed by my two cents:

First, an observation: as I mentioned on Twitter after the first couple posts in the list above, I'm not entirely happy with the AALL annual meeting--content, process, and format--so I'm amused by the implication that we academic librarians love it just as it is. I know there's a longstanding assumption that AALL is academic biased, but that doesn't mean we don't have just as many suggestions on how the meeting could be better.

How many times have you heard someone say (or said yourself) the best parts of the meeting happen between sessions or after hours? After attending the meeting for just a few year (Denver will be my fifth), I know I was saying it as early as after my second meeting. And we usually say it like it's a good thing, although there is an element of putting down the programming sometimes.

I'm not going to say much about the content of programs other than to say I've been to good and bad sessions that have been both targeted and for general audiences. Some of the best programs I've attended have been those not in my general area of interest (if you go by my job description), or those that might appear frivolous (the fabulous program last year about comic books). So I'm not sure that changing the focusing or targeting will do much to improve the programs. My biggest complaint about the content has to do with accuracy in labeling of beginner, intermediate, and advanced levels, and wanting more intermediate and advanced programming--something I know is being worked on.

The process of proposing and coordinating programs is getting closer to where my concern is. First, proposals have typically been due within weeks of the previous meeting. The proposal deadline was pushed back this year, which is great, but not enough. Information, technology, and library trends are changing too rapidly to have the entire program save a handful of hot topics decided on so far in advance. When I go to a session, I want to hear more of what people are working on this year, and less about what they did last year.

The process also feels mired in a time when we relied on post office and the AMPC members meeting live to discuss it. It wasn't easy to distribute proposals to more than a handful of people. But that hasn't been the case in a long time. AALL did a great job of explaining the rating and weighting process in the program planning FAQ, but it's time to have more content decided on by direct vote of members. Others have mentioned and I have long (well, okay, two years) been a proponent of doing the selecting for, say, half the sessions by a system like SXSW's panel picker. Are there sound alike sessions? Let us decide which one sounds better. Are there trends or topics that the 7-member committee is missing? Let the membership find them. That said, if people are unhappy now, it might be complete chaos if AMPC didn't exist to provide some checks, but the balance in the process could nevetheless be shifted a few more notches from oligarchy toward democracy without danger.

The format of the meeting is where most of my concern is. Those in-the-hallway, between-sessions, after-hours moments when solutions are shared and new ideas are sparked? Let's figure out a way to have more of those during the meeting.

The majority of AALL presentations fall into the broadcast format: many people listening to one person or panel for the majority of the session, followed by a small question and answer period, but not much interaction among the attendees. I've seen intra-audience interaction happen during both main and feedback segments of programs, but it's rare.

If we're all going to the trouble and expense of getting ourselves together, wouldn't it be great if we could find more ways to facilitate more generative programs? Check Roger Martin's definition of generative meetings:

a meeting designed for the participants to generate through the dialogue something that didn't exist before the meeting and wouldn't come into existence except through the dialogue. Generative meetings have always been extremely valuable because, in a sense, they generate new intellectual property that comes about because of the real-time interplay between the minds of intelligent people.

That sounds a little like Lawberry Camp, doesn't it? The Camp is happening again this year, but I was disappointed when AALL decided not to accept it as an official workshop. Sure, the explanation that workshops require measurable learning outcomes makes sense rationally, but "learning outcome" is not the only valuable outcome. I appreciate the statement that the association believes the unconference and PLL summit should be held and supported, but as a member of the sponsoring SIS on the former, it didn't feel supportive when we heard how the program was accepted--especially when there was a snafu that initially led to it not getting a room assignment on the schedule or the requested AV equipment.

What would I most like to see change in the annual meeting? More open and practical support of non-traditional programming. Not just Lawberry Camp, but unconference sessions in other programming slots. More variety and creativity in formats. To toot the CS-SIS horn again, sessions like the Cool Tools Cafe that got people moving around the entire room. I'm not sure about everything that needs to change to make that happen, but I do know we need more support from AALL/AMPC and a willingness to be flexible on what constitutes an outcome. On the other side, maybe we need to do stuff like encourage Sarah and Jason to list outcomes from previous instances of Lawberry Camp as potential learning outcomes, or focus on the types of problems that attendees can expect to work on solving.

Here's what I don't want to happen: new, creative, innovative sessions just stacked on the existing, already overflowing program schedule to compete with the main stage(s). Like Tracy said, less is more. Many people are overbooked already. I'd love to see the dominant but deprecated broadcast format give up some space to opportunities to generate new ideas, solve problems, build relationships, and make the annual meeting a must-attend event. Here's Roger Martin again:

most meetings are still run on the tried-and-true broadcast platform and that is why the majority of people think that meetings are generally a waste of time. They don't have to be, but they generally are.

Need evidence that law librarians love generativity? Don't listen to the haters; check out the thriving law librarian community and conversations--serious as often as silly--that happen on Twitter.

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By Sarah Glassmeyer - Monday, July 5, 2010 - 2:55pm

An Infamous Factini

A "Factini", given out on SLA exhibit hall floor

SCENE :

EXT – MEAN STREETS OF CRYSTAL CITY, VIRGINIA – NIGHT. I’m attending the Computers in Libraries conference.  My conference husband and I were walking a friend  back to her hotel (which was located approximately in West Virginia) for the night.  We are approached by a couple drunkenly swaying towards us.

Drunk woman: Heeeeeeyyy….

Drunk man: Oh, gawd….it’s some more of those f**king librarians!

The drunk couple then stumbled on towards the Crystal City Hyatt.

My friends and I looked at each other.  “Did they…did they just say what I thought they said?”  I assumed that they were people staying in our hotel, tired of tripping over laptop cords and the myriad other inconveniences caused by several hundred librarians taking over a smallish hotel.  We ran into them again later that night at the Hyatt bar and, upon seeing them in the light,  realized that they were vendor reps working the CiL exhibit hall.

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As you’ve probably noticed, Gentle Reader, I think a lot about vendor relations and libraries.   Even so, the above Computers in Libraries experience was the first time it ever occurred to me that vendors might not like librarians. I mean, librarians are the good guys!  They’re the big, mean corporations marching through our budgets like Sherman through Georgia! What do they have to be grumpy about?

Last month I attended the Special Libraries Association annual meeting.   This was my first time attending the full SLA conference and it was an eye opening experience.  From the exhibit hall Factinis to the vendor sponsored receptions to vendor reps attending programming to the fact that elected president of the organization WORKS FOR A VENDOR and at least one board member of the legal division does as well…well, my mind was blown at how much vendors were woven in throughout the SLA fabric.  And you know what? I kinda liked it.

I guess it’s because so many of the SLA membership come from a corporate/business/law firm background, but there’s a very matter-of-fact business relationship with vendors at SLA.  The vendor-librarian relationship felt like one of equals.  It was very refreshing.  I was able to discuss product issues at several points throughout the conference with representatives and develop personal relationships with them – which was much preferable to the gauntlet run that the AALL exhibit hall feels like.

I can’t help but feel that many librarians have a major martyrdom complex when it come to vendors.  They’re the big evil corporations and we’re the saintly librarians who are just trying to help people after all and isn’t so awful that they keep taking advantage of us?  I am guilty of feeling this way myself.

So, yes, over the past six months, I’ve had a bit of a change of heart about vendors.  The “love” in title of this post is a bit of a misnomer, as I still don’t *love* vendors -  I just couldn’t resist the movie allusion. I have, however, gained a certain respect for vendors.

Now, vendors are far from perfect.  They still pump out a bunch of inferior products at ridiculous prices and the time has come where libraries and other cultural institutions can replicate much of their offerings better and cheaper.  And some of their business practices cause me to give them the old side eye.  And I get damn near giddy when I read about things like the University of PEI fighting rising subscription prices. But they’re not ZOMG EVIL and an antagonistic relationship with them is only going to harm libraries in the end.  Mutual respect, open communication and equal partnerships are what the librarian-vendor relationship needs.

Because just as it’s getting to a point where librarians can do without some of the services traditionally offered by vendors, vendors are able to do end runs around librarians and get directly to our patrons.  Exhibit A: Westlaw’s “Are you on a first name basis with your librarian?” advertisement from last year.  And how many of you librarians have had students come up to the ref desk and mentioned that they purchased a PDF of an article that we could have gotten them for free via ILL?

Is hanging out with vendors at conferences going to solve all of these problems? No. But I think if we approach vendors as equals instead of expecting them to treat us like customers (with the attendant “the customer is always right!” mentality) we’ll have a better relationship and better products.  And as for the tired meme that librarians who go work for vendors (and, to a certain extent, professional associations) have “gone to the dark side” or “sold out”…*pfft*  Again, vendors (and orgs) having an understanding of what the daily needs and desires of the library community are can only be an improvement over them trying to figure it out via grumpy listserv postings or annual meeting focus groups.

(Hmm..maybe I should have titled this post “Vendors are from Mars, Librarians are from Venus”.)

I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention that there’s currently a dust-in LawLibraryLand over AALL’s Committee on Vendor Relations and the appointment of a vendor representative.  (See LLB posts here and here for starters)  I’m not sure what the right answer is, but I can say that in my years as an AALL member, I haven’t felt like CRIV was any different than any of the other AALL committees. Perhaps a single AALL representative to vendors (much like the AALL Government relations office) would allow for long term relationship building which a rotating committee roster simply cannot provide.  I also think AALL should take a page from SLA and have more involvement from vendors at all levels of the organization.  Close your eyes for a minute and imagine Anne Ellis as president of AALL…crazy right? But why is that?

So, again, I don’t have all (or any) answers, but I am planning on using the second half of 2010 to approach vendors as an equal partner in the information game instead of demanding that they be nice to me and wondering why they are treating a business relationship as just that.

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